April 16 2008 Conference Call
Conference Call Notes
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, April 16, 2008
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Attendees
- Joe Andrieu
- Dean Landsman
- Doc Searls
- Keith Hopper
- Renee Lloyd
- Iain Henderson
- Chris Carfi
- Drummond Reed
Previous Action Items
Notes
Introductions
Introduction to Renee Lloyd. She is a lawyer with lots of experience with startups and engineers, including open source efforts and at RSA. Some time at the IP offices of Harvard. Now at Berkman, advocating the law and role of lawyers in a positive, helpful framework.
Vision Committee (Dean)
Standards Committee (Joe)
Challenges getting outside input on the Personal Address Manager. Consensus is that we get the most engagement in real-time, in-person meetings. So let's do more of those.
Several good Relbutton conversations. Next step from the standards perspective is to map out, in the PayChoice case, what the desired relations are for the radio stations. PayChoice is fairly straightforward, but there are other ways to relate to a given audio program. Let's figure those out and we can talk about how we use the relbutton to manage those relations.
This American Life experimented with a direct support request that only went out on a podcast. The result was far higher than expected.
Re: iTunes, Doc wants to get this far enough downstream so we can say here are the icons, here are the liberty pieces, here are the public interactive pieces... present a fait-accompli to the folks at Apple.
Question: are there issues with Liberty's links? Doc says not really. CardSpace already represents the WS* side of things (which is not Liberty). Drummond agrees. The Liberty perspective verse the MS perspective verses OSS perspective... we can't say any one of those are right. The market will sort it out.
Keith mentioned conversations with Parity to understand what they offer. He will also be talking with folks from WBEZ and KCRW, who expressed interest in the relbutton at the Media Re:public forum.
Doc & Renee discussed how the contract & access rights terms can be modularly standardized, akin to Creative Commons, with their three criteria: machine readable, human readable, lawyer readable.
The different kinds of data could be presented or shared according to these common terms.
What we need to do next is to unpack the potential ways we can relate. The traditional membership fee and t-shirt is just one model. There are other ways to construct the relationships.